From: Roy Roebuck [roy(AT)one-world-is.org] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 8:10 AM To: 'Andrius Kulikauskas' Subject: RE: Thanks
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See my responses in [@...] below.
Roy
-----Original Message----- From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:msodas@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 12:26 AM To: roy.e.roebuck@cpmx.saic.com Subject: Thanks
Roy Roebuck Principal Information Engineer SAIC 5180 Parkstone Drive Chantilly, VA Cellular: (703) 598-2531 roy.e.roebuck@cpmx.saic.com
Dear Roy,
I am glad we met and I hope to stay in touch. [@Likewise] It is a pleasant moment to meet somebody who has arrived independently at many of the same ideas. Talking with you helped me think through the difference between syntax and semantics that I then wrote up in my proposal, especially the idea that the field structure of tables is a semantic fact, that gets expressed as internal structure. [@Look at slide #9 at /rer/ue-gem/ppframe.htm and the corresponding illustration at /rer/dem/slides/img090.gif]
I checked out your site a little bit. There is a lot of information there, so I only absorbed a little. I can say, though, that the "one-world" concept seems very similar to the concept of "everything" that I started my work from. I needed something that I could take as an absolute fact [@same idea], at least pragmatically, in communicating with others. The concept of "everything" held firm, having four properties: no external context,no internal structure
[@Point of difference - I view Oneness as having very rich internal structure. To paraphrase from my page at /rer/one/index.htm:
"It is easy for us to be misled by our body-senses, and to be confused about the terms "separate" and "different". These sense-messages easily give rise to incomplete beliefs that things are unconnected, with accompanying thoughts, words, deeds.
There are differences between things within the Oneness. Differentiation is a fundamental characteristic of the universe. But individual or type difference does not indicate separation from a common root. Nothing is truly alien to us, when seen from the perspective of one universe, contained within something even larger (which we are just beginning to see). For practical purposes, we can believe that all of the different things in the universe are interconnected within a single thing, the one universe. If you use the analogy of a family tree, everything sprang from one creative activity.
Distinctive difference is as important in the universe as it is in our bodies. As an illustration, what would be the effect on your body if there were no differences between cells? Answer: your body would be composed of undifferentiated cells, resulting in no heart, no lungs, no brain, no eyes, etc., putting our bodies on the same level as the simplest multicellular organisms. If you can carry this awareness of the importance of differentiation and the resultant diversity to other life forms, other physical forms, or other social, ethnic, national, political, and economic forms, then you're on your way to understanding oneness.
Thus there is no actual separation between things, only branches of variations on a theme rooted in the universe. There are principals and forces binding together the different components of the universe in ways that we are just beginning to grasp with our sciences and our minds. Research the physics of "Bell's Theorem" and "non-locality" to see where our sciences are pointing us."],
the simplest algorithm, and a required concept. Then I did divisions of everything [@see previous comment], and that yielded basic structures: nullsome, onesome, twosome, threesome, foursome, fivesome, sixsome, sevensome. [@don't understand this. Does this relate to dimensions?] I hope to go back to your site some time and maybe I can show how these might relate.
Your encouragement to use XML was echoed by several other people. The information at the xml.com site seems quite helpful, I started reading the explanation of what is XML [@My explanation is much for fundamental than their more operational view. I perceive that XML is the language that will allow us to map and manage the hierarchical, associative, and chronological characteristics of all our recorded knowledge of all objects. See /rer/dem/slides/img033.gif. I use the simplified terms "tree, star, arrow" to describe the hierarchical, associative, and chronological relations respectively].
Thank you for the CD-ROM. I also took a quick look. After I go through it I may send it to my colleague Raimundas Vaitkevicius in Lithuania, he teaches object-oriented programming and I rely on him for help in these areas [@Ask him to evaluate XML as a simplified peer to CORBA and COM].
I have been thinking hard about how I will organize my laboratory, the kinds of services I will offer to subscribers. I will write this up soon and will send it to you. It will be very helpful to hear your response, if you find time. Yours,
Andrius Kulikauskas Minciu Sodas, Director www.ms.lt msodas@hotmail.com (619) 298-7019
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